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peaky



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:34 am    Post subject: BBC Have your say Reply with quote

The BBC have an option to comment on "Is petrol too expensive" at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/4134350.stm.

I sent the following last night:

"People look for any reason - government taxes, inefficiency, lack of capacity, hurricanes, terrorism, etc. Perhaps the simple and obvious answer is the one nobody wants to consider - relentless demand is about to exceed finite supply. Forever.

Please, please, please, simply do a Google search for "Peak Oil" (in quotes) - then study a representative selection - the first few off the list are good in my opinion. Engage your brain. Suddenly a lot of other things might start making sense as well. What have you to lose but a few hours of your time?"

Others might like to do the same.
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andyh



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peaky that link is dead I am afraid
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andyh



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

try this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/4134350.stm

There are now some peak oil posts on it, but 90% are all the superficial 'petrol is too expensive, it all tax etc etc' posts
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fishertrop



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if they pulled it cos it got too much attention or too much many "one sided" arguments......
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fishertrop



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or maybe they just moved it !

try this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/3583864.stm
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fishertrop



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ooops sorry, that's an older link on the same subject.

Sorry !!
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fishertrop



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually you should read those older opinion posts - there is a suprisingly enlightened view across most of them....
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I never! They posted what I sent in, fame at last........


'People should be urgently asking themselves why the price of oil has been increasing these last few years. There is now every chance we are close to or at 'peak oil'- ie demand is now outstripping supply and the two will never be in balance again. This has ramifications far beyond the price of petrol'.
Andrew Hamilton, London
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's mine:

"There is a clear scientific explanation as to why oil is in short supply, thus making prices high, but thus far many media organisations have ignored it. 'Peak Oil' is a natural phenomena relating to the production of oil from oil wells. It was identified in scientific papers going back to the late 1940s, and it's prediction was confirmed in the early 1970s.

Most of the ex-oil industry and academic experts on Peak Oil agree that a peak in global production will take place over the next five years. At this point, as there will be less oil to pump year on year, oil prices will rise ever higher.

If you think 90p/litre is bad, wait five years!"


Whether they'll publish it is another issue!

P.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check this also http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4135122.stm
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bias is now definitely pro-tax and peak oil in mentioned twice directly. Looks like GD got a quote published too. Lots of posts saying we need to reduce demand.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is interesting is the vote (2414 so far) shows :

- 50% for reducing oil/petrol/plastics

- 25.39% probably not, whats the point

- 24.61% no way, life is hard enough already.


Just shows you what an uphill struggle this is going to be Sad
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GD



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got this in there:

Quote:
As the cost of oil increases, so too will the cost of renewables. Oil is needed to make solar panels, wind turbines and fertilize crops for biofuels. How will you pay to transport yourself to work? Will you even have a job to go to? People have got to research the ramifications of high oil prices a bit more for themselves.
Gareth Doutch, Torquay


For whatever good it might do.
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peaky



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great stuff GD - it's good when they actually post one. I've posted on a variety of subjects over about 2 years and last month my first was published, on climate change I think.

Even if they don't get published, the BBC actually read them and may start to see a pattern and a line for investigation. Who knows? Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is my post:
The simple and obvious answer is the one nobody wants to hear - we, the country, the world is running out of oil. Relentless demand is about to exceed finite supply. Forever. And oil prices will keep on rising. Forever.

Please, please, please, simply do a Google search for "Peak Oil" - then study a selection - the first few off the list are good in my opinion.

Oil is now around $66. Soon it will be $100. Next year perhaps $200. And $400 the year after.
If you want to survive, change your own personal lifestyle. Get rid of debts, become as self sufficient as you can, assume utilities will collapse, assume you will loose your job and your pension will be lost in a world stock market crash. And maybe you can still save your family.

or is that too hard hitting?
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