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Why the West Antarctic glaciers are melting quicker

 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:08 am    Post subject: Why the West Antarctic glaciers are melting quicker Reply with quote

Here's why it is human caused global warming that is melting the West Antarctic glaciers quicker than ever before.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:51 am    Post subject: Re: Why the West Antarctic glaciers are melting quicker Reply with quote

kenneal - lagger wrote:
Here's why is is human caused global warming that is melting the West Antarctic glaciers quicker than ever before.


A foot by 2100? What the hell? Antarctica in its entirety can do a solid 250' + right? Seriously, this is pipsqueak compared to all the caterwauling going on by the likes of Guy "Find me some Doom groupies!" McPherson.

How is 1 foot going to do more than piss off ocean side real estate owners? Or more accurately, their great grand children?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I looked at that and thought it was a bit low but elsewhere 3000mm is mentioned so I suppose it was a mistranslation from mm to ft. Some of you Americans do seem to have a problem with proper dimensions!! Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since NASA is American, they must have a problem with their figures too. They can’t tell whether it’s getting hotter or cooler (nor can the Chinese).
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So our right wing, conspiracy theory and Trump supporter, anti science, flat earther, woodburner, doesn't know the science behind a solar minimum. A solar minimum is a temporary, cyclical change in the sun's output. It may last 11 years or it may last 33 years but the sun's output will regain its strength in a very short period, geologically speaking.

The reduction in average temperature of the Maunder minimum was less than 1 deg C while the temperature increase due to global warming now stands at 1.2 deg C. The only reason that we are not suffering Maunder Minimum temperatures now is that we have global warming. If we carry on emitting carbon as we now are, in a decade or so we will come out of the minimum with a bang and temperatures will jump to levels never experienced in the history of mankind. We are getting record temperatures and record rainfall even with a solar minimum so imagine what life would be like without the solar minimum.

But woodburner is too thick to see that. He would much rather follow his hero, the Donald, and make fun of serious science so that a load of already over rich Kleptomanics can carry on screwing the life blood out of the economy and the rest of us taking as much of the money in this world that they possibly can before the collapse, that they know is coming, overwhelms us. Woodburner cannot, unfortunately, see that he has been conned by the neoliberal Kleptocracy into working for their benefit spreading their lies and misinformation.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenneal - lagger wrote:
So our right wing, conspiracy theory and Trump supporter, anti science, flat earther, woodburner, doesn't know the science behind a solar minimum. A solar minimum is a temporary, cyclical change in the sun's output. It may last 11 years or it may last 33 years but the sun's output will regain its strength in a very short period, geologically speaking.

The reduction in average temperature of the Maunder minimum was less than 1 deg C while the temperature increase due to global warming now stands at 1.2 deg C. The only reason that we are not suffering Maunder Minimum temperatures now is that we have global warming. If we carry on emitting carbon as we now are, in a decade or so we will come out of the minimum with a bang and temperatures will jump to levels never experienced in the history of mankind. We are getting record temperatures and record rainfall even with a solar minimum so imagine what life would be like without the solar minimum.

But woodburner is too thick to see that. He would much rather follow his hero, the Donald, and make fun of serious science so that a load of already over rich Kleptomanics can carry on screwing the life blood out of the economy and the rest of us taking as much of the money in this world that they possibly can before the collapse, that they know is coming, overwhelms us. Woodburner cannot, unfortunately, see that he has been conned by the neoliberal Kleptocracy into working for their benefit spreading their lies and misinformation.


And that considered, objective view is from a thing euphemistaclly called a “moderator” in this case loosely defined as “one whose answers cannot be questioned”.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenneal - lagger wrote:
I looked at that and thought it was a bit low but elsewhere 3000mm is mentioned so I suppose it was a mistranslation from mm to ft. Some of you Americans do seem to have a problem with proper dimensions!! Wink


That is because everything is bigger in America, and that includes not using commie units!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I notice once again, woodburner, that you don't answer the technical point.

As for the rest I suspect that most other people on the forum are just as fed up with your daft conspiracy theories and Trumpisms as I am.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ReserveGrowthRulz wrote:
kenneal - lagger wrote:
I looked at that and thought it was a bit low but elsewhere 3000mm is mentioned so I suppose it was a mistranslation from mm to ft. Some of you Americans do seem to have a problem with proper dimensions!! Wink


That is because everything is bigger in America, and that includes not using commie units!


It's not commie units at all. It's just easier to count on our fingers.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenneal - lagger wrote:
I notice once again, woodburner, that you don't answer the technical point.

As for the rest I suspect that most other people on the forum are just as fed up with your daft conspiracy theories and Trumpisms as I am.


The first paragraph in your earlier diatribe is yet another of your characteristicly personal attacks, totally without fact, and looks like pure hate speech. Yet you would like people to think your are reasonable and logical and scientific.

How are you going to deal with your continued emmissions of hot air? Or do those not contribute to global warming?

I note that you are now having to speak for “others” and claim they think the same as you. Have you asked them? You must be right of course, as you always are. It is so comforting to have someone like you on the forum, whose greatness is only exceeded by their modesty.

I merely linked to a report from NASA, why did that cause you to have a near total breakdown?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenneal - lagger wrote:
I notice once again, woodburner, that you don't answer the technical point.


Sounds sort of like peak oilers, when confronted with the science of the USGS, or the analysts and engineers and economists of the EIA, or anyone really who wasn't some wild eyed doomer type.

What a coincidence, peak oilers turning their own weakness into an accusation to level against others!

Throwing stones, glass houses, etc etc.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenneal - lagger wrote:
ReserveGrowthRulz wrote:
kenneal - lagger wrote:
I looked at that and thought it was a bit low but elsewhere 3000mm is mentioned so I suppose it was a mistranslation from mm to ft. Some of you Americans do seem to have a problem with proper dimensions!! Wink


That is because everything is bigger in America, and that includes not using commie units!


It's not commie units at all. It's just easier to count on our fingers.


Well, I must agree with that. Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

woodburner wrote:
...I merely linked to a report from NASA, why did that cause you to have a near total breakdown?


No you didn't. You linked to a right wing US site which is deliberately spouting garbage confusing the message from NASA.

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The climate alarmists just can’t catch a break. NASA is reporting that the sun is entering one of the deepest Solar Minima of the Space Age; and Earth’s atmosphere is responding in kind.

So, start pumping out that CO2, everyone. We’re going to need all the greenhouse gases we can get.


I informed you of the truth of the matter and called you out on your obfuscation but you try to feign innocence. You are just a troll for right wing US anti global warming propaganda sites.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh dear, another right wing trumpist report suggesting things are not as they seemed. Must be a conspiracy, so nothing to worry about.

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Wu said the latest study, with 10,000 years’ worth of new data, not only helped to draw a more complete picture of the 500-year cycle, but also revealed a previously unknown mechanism behind the phenomenon, which suggested the impact of the sun on the Earth’s climate may be greater than previously thought.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A 500 year cycle has not, as far as I know been detected elsewhere in the earth's sediment and ice records so this may well be just a local phenomenon of which there are many. Perhaps CLV might be able to add something to this.

Quoting from the article "........ a 250-year cool phase, potentially leading to a partial slowdown in man-made global warming."

She is predicting here a partial slowdown. She is not saying global warming is a hoax.

No, woodburner, nothing to worry about except of course the climate inexorably warming. The thing about a partial slowdown is that the CO2 levels are still rising in the background so when the sun returns to normal the rise in temperature is very marked indeed.

Thank you for raising that point confirming the actuality of Global Warming.
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