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Turkey Military Coup, and ongoing disscussions.
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raspberry-blower



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:50 pm    Post subject: Turkey Military Coup, and ongoing disscussions. Reply with quote

Given President Erdogan's erratic behaviour - authorising the downing of a Russian Su-24 bomber that saw Russia effectively shut down their tourist industry; the blowback from support given to the Wahabbist thugs in Syria etc - this is only surprising in the time it has taken for such a coup to happen in the first place:

BBC: Turkey Army group announces takeover on TV
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just turned on the news
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Crikey!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds worrying that the coup only involves a group within the military, and not the top brass.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snail wrote:
Sounds worrying that the coup only involves a group within the military, and not the top brass.


The Turkish military has been highly alarmed at the antics of Erdogan for a while now,
It's not as if this is not unheard of here though which is a worrying in itself
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got back from Northern Cyprus yesterday. There was talk of 'issues' a few days back. There were people complaining about Erdogan, but not sure they were looking for the removal of Erdogan.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reports of the specific military personnel behind it may belong to a hard line Islamic group. Too early to be sure. But, if true, not good.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jul/15/turkey-coup-attempt-military-gunfire-ankara
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Little John wrote:
Reports of the specific military personnel behind it may belong to a hard line Islamic group. Too early to be sure. But, if true, not good.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jul/15/turkey-coup-attempt-military-gunfire-ankara


Apparently Erdogan has left Turkey. I thought he was a fan of hard-line Islamism?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exciting start for Boris!

If the Turkish military coupsters are committed to secularism and democracy this can only be a good thing.

Good riddance to the vile Islamist strongman Erodgen.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Beria3 wrote:
Exciting start for Boris!

If the Turkish military coupsters are committed to secularism and democracy this can only be a good thing.

Good riddance to the vile Islamist strongman Erodgen.


Yes indeed. That would be Ataturk's wish Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Beria3 wrote:
Exciting start for Boris!

If the Turkish military coupsters are committed to secularism and democracy this can only be a good thing.

Good riddance to the vile Islamist strongman Erodgen.
I don't think Erdogan was necessarily a hard line Islamist. His antics with ISIS were, I would argue, merely the expression of his dutiful part in a larger US strategy to undermine Russia in the region.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Little John wrote:
Lord Beria3 wrote:
Exciting start for Boris!

If the Turkish military coupsters are committed to secularism and democracy this can only be a good thing.

Good riddance to the vile Islamist strongman Erodgen.
I don't think Erdogan was necessarily a hard line Islamist. His antics with ISIS were, I would argue, merely the expression of his dutiful part in a larger US strategy to undermine Russia in the region.


That's a good point LJ. My point above was that people were getting fed up with Erdogan. Apparently a few explosions in Ankara and Istanbul.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From 3rd July: The Saker: Turkey on the Ropes

It has been clear for quite some time that Erdogan had made too many powerful enemies with very little to show for it in return.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently Istanbul Ataturk Airport is blocked. Does anyone have an idea if Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen is blocked??
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://atimes.com/2016/07/the-sick-man-of-europe-once-again/

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The outcome of tonight’s apparent coup attempt in Turkey remains unclear, but the motivation for regime change in Turkey has been building under the surface for years. Turkey faces a perfect storm of economic, political and foreign policy problems.


Spenglers take on the attempted Turkish coup.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it's over (for now at least).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36814044
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