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woodburner



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vtsnowedin wrote:
fuzzy wrote:
All surface to air missiles are guided by something

Yes of course. Usually radar or heat seeking or a combination of both. But the radar and heat signals from a 140,000 lb aircraft with the engines churning out enough heat for it to climb would be 30 times the signal from a cruise missile.
If you think the USA fooled the Iranians into knocking down that plane say so and then tell us why the USA would want to do that and how.


I think you need only to look at a couple of incidents to see the USA (and in other instances, other governments) would do anything ..........
Pearl Harbour
Twin Towers
People at the bottom levels (most of us) have difficulty understanding the churning in the minds of nutters like Rumsfelt, Bolton, Pompeo etc etc. and why they think they have any beneficial effect on te planet.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vtsnowedin wrote:
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If you think the USA fooled the Iranians into knocking down that plane say so and then tell us why the USA would want to do that and how.


Surely, if the US had done such a thing the Irainians would be shouting it from the rooftops. As it is they have not and have just admitted responsibility. Strange working in the minds of conspiracy theorists!

You forgot to mention the fake moon landings, woodburner!!! Shocked Shocked Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenneal - lagger wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:
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If you think the USA fooled the Iranians into knocking down that plane say so and then tell us why the USA would want to do that and how.


Surely, if the US had done such a thing the Irainians would be shouting it from the rooftops. As it is they have not and have just admitted responsibility. Strange working in the minds of conspiracy theorists!

You forgot to mention the fake moon landings, woodburner!!! Shocked Shocked Very Happy Very Happy
I agree that it looks unlikely the US had anything to do with this incident on this occasion. However, it is not being a conspiracy nut to point out that precisely that kind of black op is what the US has specialized in for decades.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or they had the spoofing and jamming infrastructure in place, then they got the Saudis to invite the general to a 'peace' conference, then they killed him. Presumably they knew the system worked well after the last 2 airliners.

https://ahtribune.com/world/north-africa-south-west-asia/iran/3818-who-targeted-ukraine-airlines-flight-752.html
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-forces-tense-showdown-russian-convoy-blocked-syrian-highway

more war
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