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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its interesting that we have a thread against ukip when the other political partys covered up the mass rape of maybe a hundred thousand british children.
They have imported more traitors into the uk than anytime in british history

you have people who oppose the far right who allie themselves with jihadis they are traitors .

You have created the seeds of civil war and division, rivers of blood was foretold and can be seen on the streets of the west, because of the action of white traitors .

every march against islamification has a counter march of three time the number of these stinking white traitors, useful Imbeciles, led by white hating jihadis .

why would unite against fascism be founded by keith vaz mp who was recorded by channel 4 saying he was putting mosques in estates too drive out white people, and led the burning of effigys of salman rushdie and said that it was the finest moment of islam in the uk .

And by the man who had the death bounty put on salman rushdies head and when the iranians wanted to drop the bounty said it couldnt be dropped till rushide was killed .

Why did the uaf stop channel fours investigation into rotherham from being aired in 2004 and thereby help the rape of thousands of more white children .

Well you people have had your way with your open borders and every bomb or beheading is your fault, as is every little white girl raped by gangs of muslims you scum have imported. These people would not be here if it wasnt for your traitorous actions , when this country turns into bosnia or lebanon that will be your fault not the edl or bnp or ukip .
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree J2M.

Not saying that I will vote UKIP, but you do have a good point.

Will start new threads soon Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonny2mad wrote:
its interesting that we have a thread against ukip when the other political partys covered up the mass rape of maybe a hundred thousand british children.


Nobody on here would deny a large number of children have been abused by largely Pakistani men in certain towns in the UK, mostly in the Midlands and North and that this abuse is, in significant part, due to cultural aspects of those men. However, 100,000 is a big number. Care to cite where you get that number form or, if it is your own estimation, the criteria you have employed in that estimation?

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They have imported more traitors into the uk than anytime in british history


They have imported more immigrants into the UK. I happen to think that is a bad thing, for what it's worth. However, an immigrant is not a traitor by virtue of being an immigrant, as your comment clearly intends to imply.

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You have people who oppose the far right who allie themselves with jihadis they are traitors .


Again, you are conflating shit here. People who are left wing/anti-far-right are not, by magical definition, Jihadi supporters. That has historically been reserved for hand wringing, limp-wristed liberal apologists for the capitalist system who, heaven forfend, would do anything before being accused of racism whilst simultaneously being quite content to stand by while their working class countrymen and women are shafted on the back of the interests of global corporatist elites. Nevertheless, a left wing analysis of any major social/political phenomena such as growing numbers of young Muslim men and women travelling around the world to fight in various wars will inevitably involve viewing such phenomena in a broader socio-political context. It's called the "bigger picture" Johnny.

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You have created the seeds of civil war and division, rivers of blood was foretold and can be seen on the streets of the west, because of the action of white traitors .

every march against islamification has a counter march of three time the number of these stinking white traitors, useful Imbeciles, led by white hating jihadis .


So, anyone who does not hold your views is basically a white-hating, usefully imbecilic, white traitor eh? You want to know what you sound like when you come out with this kind of stuff Johhny? You sound like a jihadist mister. Same tune different lyrics, that's all.

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Why would unite against fascism be founded by keith vaz mp who was recorded by channel 4 saying he was putting mosques in estates too drive out white people, and led the burning of effigys of salman rushdie and said that it was the finest moment of islam in the uk .


Link?

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And by the man who had the death bounty put on salman rushdies head and when the iranians wanted to drop the bounty said it couldnt be dropped till rushide was killed .

Link?

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Why did the uaf stop channel fours investigation into rotherham from being aired in 2004 and thereby help the rape of thousands of more white children .


Link?

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......blah blah, blah.........


Bored now Johnny
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/04/nigel-farage-new-immigration-watchdog-ban-unskilled-migrants

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Farage to propose new immigration watchdog and five-year ban on unskilled migrants

Rolling Eyes This news should please all of his newly acquired members from the ranks of the BNP and EDL.

Still no real manifesto I notice.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3rdRock wrote:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/04/nigel-farage-new-immigration-watchdog-ban-unskilled-migrants

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Farage to propose new immigration watchdog and five-year ban on unskilled migrants

Rolling Eyes This news should please all of his newly acquired members from the ranks of the BNP and EDL.

Still no real manifesto I notice.


Apparently UKIP is looking to publish it's manifesto after Easter.

In the meantime, this publication sounds fairly reasonable IMHO:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farage/11447132/Nigel-Farage-Ukips-immigration-policy-is-built-on-fairness.html
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AutomaticEarth wrote:

Apparently UKIP is looking to publish it's manifesto after Easter.

The general election is in May. I should think that most people would like to study the fine print now.

Ah, but wait. I forgot. The large print giveth and the small print taketh away. Wink
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3rdRock wrote:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/04/nigel-farage-new-immigration-watchdog-ban-unskilled-migrants

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Farage to propose new immigration watchdog and five-year ban on unskilled migrants

Rolling Eyes This news should please all of his newly acquired members from the ranks of the BNP and EDL.

Still no real manifesto I notice.


It's a great idea, limiting immigration. It leaves more poorly-paid or zero-hour jobs for the Brits.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Little John wrote:
jonny2mad wrote:
its interesting that we have a thread against ukip when the other political partys covered up the mass rape of maybe a hundred thousand british children.


Nobody on here would deny a large number of children have been abused by largely Pakistani men in certain towns in the UK, mostly in the Midlands and North and that this abuse is, in significant part, due to cultural aspects of those men. However, 100,000 is a big number. Care to cite where you get that number form or, if it is your own estimation, the criteria you have employed in that estimation?

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They have imported more traitors into the uk than anytime in british history


They have imported more immigrants into the UK. I happen to think that is a bad thing, for what it's worth. However, an immigrant is not a traitor by virtue of being an immigrant, as your comment clearly intends to imply.

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You have people who oppose the far right who allie themselves with jihadis they are traitors .


Again, you are conflating shit here. People who are left wing/anti-far-right are not, by magical definition, Jihadi supporters. That has historically been reserved for hand wringing, limp-wristed liberal apologists for the capitalist system who, heaven forfend, would do anything before being accused of racism whilst simultaneously being quite content to stand by while their working class countrymen and women are shafted on the back of the interests of global corporatist elites. Nevertheless, a left wing analysis of any major social/political phenomena such as growing numbers of young Muslim men and women travelling around the world to fight in various wars will inevitably involve viewing such phenomena in a broader socio-political context. It's called the "bigger picture" Johnny.

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You have created the seeds of civil war and division, rivers of blood was foretold and can be seen on the streets of the west, because of the action of white traitors .

every march against islamification has a counter march of three time the number of these stinking white traitors, useful Imbeciles, led by white hating jihadis .


So, anyone who does not hold your views is basically a white-hating, usefully imbecilic, white traitor eh? You want to know what you sound like when you come out with this kind of stuff Johhny? You sound like a jihadist mister. Same tune different lyrics, that's all.

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Why would unite against fascism be founded by keith vaz mp who was recorded by channel 4 saying he was putting mosques in estates too drive out white people, and led the burning of effigys of salman rushdie and said that it was the finest moment of islam in the uk .


Link?

Quote:
And by the man who had the death bounty put on salman rushdies head and when the iranians wanted to drop the bounty said it couldnt be dropped till rushide was killed .

Link?

Quote:
Why did the uaf stop channel fours investigation into rotherham from being aired in 2004 and thereby help the rape of thousands of more white children .


Link?

Quote:
......blah blah, blah.........


Bored now Johnny



http://lawandfreedomfoundation.org/2014/03/04/comprehensive-report-on-the-grooming-gangs/

That is a a underestimate and out of date they make a estimate of 1in every 6 muslim men between I think 20 and 46 is a client of child sex slaves in the uk . I have read estimates of the total number of victims nationally Ive seen estimates of a hundred thousand .

I think if you look at the numbers of people willing to go abroad and fight as jihadis, and polls where 40 % of the uk muslim population want sheriah law here and 30% agree with killing people like cartoonists your talking hundreds of thousands of people who are not loyal to this country, in this country. and every march against briigng more of these traitors into the country is opposed by hundreds of white traitors, the running dogs of jihadis .

I make no apology for calling white supporters of the uaf as traitors

keith vaz http://islamversuseurope.blogspot.co.uk/2011/06/keith-vaz-wanted-colony-of-asians.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4424118.stm also in the book satanic affair, it explains how the origial fatwah came to be written and it was by siddequi asking for the fatwah


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2006/may/28/religion.islam

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/douglas-murray/2013/06/keith-vaz-and-salman-rushdie/

http://independent-british-nationalist.blogspot.co.uk/2011/01/uaf-west-yorkshire-police-should.html

it doesnt take much looking to see what the uaf and other so called anti fascists etc have done to help the groomers, and these groomers have been imported by both the main partys but mainly by labour and by marxists.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/02/06/rotherhams-mp-sarah-champion-is-a-desperate-chancer/

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/child-sex-abuse-gangs-could-5114029

The bnp the edl and ukip actually have done their best for the victims, if it wasnt for the edl marching I doubt you would have heard anything about rotherham unlike the socialist worker uaf scum who pal up to jihadis .

no platform for facists but your founded by islamofascists, you sit with people who drive authors into hiding, and collect money for jihadis
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

emordnilap wrote:
3rdRock wrote:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/04/nigel-farage-new-immigration-watchdog-ban-unskilled-migrants

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Farage to propose new immigration watchdog and five-year ban on unskilled migrants

Rolling Eyes This news should please all of his newly acquired members from the ranks of the BNP and EDL.

Still no real manifesto I notice.


It's a great idea, limiting immigration. It leaves more poorly-paid or zero-hour jobs for the Brits.


If you limit the supply of workers, then poor jobs will decline as workers have better choices. Anyway it's better than no job - millions of English, Welsh and Scottish currently have no job prospects.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fuzzy wrote:
emordnilap wrote:
3rdRock wrote:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/04/nigel-farage-new-immigration-watchdog-ban-unskilled-migrants

Quote:
Farage to propose new immigration watchdog and five-year ban on unskilled migrants

Rolling Eyes This news should please all of his newly acquired members from the ranks of the BNP and EDL.

Still no real manifesto I notice.


It's a great idea, limiting immigration. It leaves more poorly-paid or zero-hour jobs for the Brits.


If you limit the supply of workers, then poor jobs will decline as workers have better choices. Anyway it's better than no job - millions of English, Welsh and Scottish currently have no job prospects.


Well put Fuzzy. Beat me to it.

Emord - there are loads of highly-skilled jobs available in the UK - just not for the low-skilled - UK or otherwise.

We have 10 openings available in my place. None of them will be filled from low-skilled EU labour. They will come from Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and Singapore among other places. Controlled immigration in action Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Farage wouldn't do that if he ever got into office. The Kleptocrasy funding him wouldn't allow it as it would put their costs up. The lobbyists from his backers would make mincemeat of him and his MPs if they didn't get their way.

Read The Prostitute State to find out how and why.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenneal - lagger wrote:
Farage wouldn't do that if he ever got into office. The Kleptocrasy funding him wouldn't allow it as it would put their costs up. The lobbyists from his backers would make mincemeat of him and his MPs if they didn't get their way.

Read The Prostitute State to find out how and why.

Thanks for the heads up. Smile
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fuzzy wrote:
emordnilap wrote:
3rdRock wrote:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/04/nigel-farage-new-immigration-watchdog-ban-unskilled-migrants

Quote:
Farage to propose new immigration watchdog and five-year ban on unskilled migrants

Rolling Eyes This news should please all of his newly acquired members from the ranks of the BNP and EDL.

Still no real manifesto I notice.


It's a great idea, limiting immigration. It leaves more poorly-paid or zero-hour jobs for the Brits.


If you limit the supply of workers, then poor jobs will decline as workers have better choices. Anyway it's better than no job - millions of English, Welsh and Scottish currently have no job prospects.


But...but...but...who'll clean supermarket toilets, who'll serve you your frappacino, who'll do your hotel rooms? The Brits (nor the native Irish) don't want those jobs now, so you're saying they'll be forced to take 'em. Fair enough, that's certainly the way things are going, as more and more lose any hope of a social safety net. And your man in the BBC documentary about the filthy rich experienced the great 'people per hour' lifestyle.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem with people not wanting to do certain jobs is the fault of the education system. we teach children that an academic education is the only one worth while. If they aren't academic there is nothing else for them so they fail completely rather than go on to get a good vocational training as they did in the Grammar/secondary modern system in which I grew up. By not offering them an alternative to academia we are teaching them that it's not worth doing.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenneal - lagger wrote:
The problem with people not wanting to do certain jobs is the fault of the education system. we teach children that an academic education is the only one worth while. If they aren't academic there is nothing else for them so they fail completely rather than go on to get a good vocational training as they did in the Grammar/secondary modern system in which I grew up. By not offering them an alternative to academia we are teaching them that it's not worth doing.


Perfectly put IMHO.

I came through the secondary school / apprentice system and while the money was crap, I went on to study part time later on, and it has stood me in very good stead.

I've spoke to many young people ad nauseum about all this.

Don't expect a degree in art history to get you ANYTHING but debt. These degrees are useless, but even worse they make your financial situation difficult.

Of course, you get some kid come up and say 'I want to grow and distribute cannabis for a living' and I say 'well, you're an entrepreneur - once it become legal'
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