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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:53 am    Post subject: IPCC AR5 WGIII Reply with quote

Press release from WGIII meeting in Berlin http://ipcc.ch/pdf/ar5/140407_pr_WGIII_opening.pdf
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://report.mitigation2014.org/spm/ipcc_wg3_ar5_summary-for-policymakers_approved.pdf

And a summary with pictures:
http://www.carbonbrief.org/blog/2014/04/what-where-when-of-global-greenhouse-gas-emissions-three-charts/
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The BBC have done a subtle but highly effective denial job, without even rolling any overt deniers on. See http://biffvernon.blogspot.co.uk/

But see also http://www.smh.com.au/world/ipcc-report-summary-censored-by-governments-around-the-world-20140414-zqugm.html

It appears that the whole thing was censored before it got published!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

biffvernon wrote:

It appears that the whole thing was censored before it got published!


Are you really surprised?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenneal - lagger wrote:


Are you really surprised?


Well actually, after reading the Summary, I wasn't sure there was much room for stuff to have been removed. The report is dire enough. It's the selective cherry-picking by the BBC and some newspaper articles that it seriously worrying. The BBC radio 4 reports on Sunday and Monday, that focussed on a misreading of one paragraph (Economics, page 17) that was particularly surprising. It was as if the editors had recognised the impossibility of bring someone like Lawson on again so they deliberately found a more insidious way to subvert the message.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even some in Ireland have noticed the report. Wink Source

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To increase the odds of avoiding disastrous changes that will destabilise our futures, we must reduce emissions deeply and quickly.

We are not doing so. We must start now.


Ah. Dragged kicking and screaming into the twentieth century.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The World Bank needs serious reform.

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Since 2008, the World Bank Group has provided over $21 billion in financing for fossil fuels. Fossil fuel finance overall has lessened somewhat in recent years; from 2008 to 2010 World Bank Group financing for oil, gas and coal averaged $4.7 billion a year, while from 2011 to 2013 financing averaged $2.3 billion. However, despite these trends, finance for fossil fuel exploration projects over the period was highest in 2013, at nearly $1 billion out of $2.7 billion total for fossil fuel projects in 2013.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole WGIII report is now available at http://mitigation2014.org/report/final-draft
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Time for a laugh, people. The headings are somewhat positionally-challenged.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm afraid anything with "101" in the title makes me think of Room 101 (the silly show on the telly, not the nightmare of Winston Smith) and invokes the desire to tip it into said room Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well yes, the page to which I linked is rather on the silly side.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carolyn Baker is often worth reading. Try this: What Does It Mean To Do Something About Climate Change?

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Doing something implies that developing nations of the world and the fossil fuel industry will come together and: 1) Agree that climate change is actually happening; 2) Understand that the situation is so dire that humanitys living arrangements must be radically altered; 3) Sacrifice their economic security and industrial profits to significantly reduce carbon emissions; 4) Agree to the reality of climate change and the altering of their living arrangements in time to prevent another 2 degree C rise in temperature.

I dare say that the same people who believe this is going to happen would vehemently protest a belief in Santa Claus, but nevertheless, they cling to this chimera.


It's my opinion that it's too late; nothing anyone does is going to slow, let alone reverse, climate change. It's fecked we are.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the IPCC Government Approval Process Broken?

http://www.robertstavinsblog.org/2014/04/25/is-the-ipcc-government-approval-process-broken-2/
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biffvernon wrote:
The BBC radio 4 reports on Sunday and Monday, that focussed on a misreading of one paragraph (Economics, page 17) that was particularly surprising. It was as if the editors had recognised the impossibility of bring someone like Lawson on again so they deliberately found a more insidious way to subvert the message.


Here we go again. The BBC is bent. Nigel Lawson simply tells lies, for instance, that fossil fuel is not subsidised or that global temperatures are declining.

He's part of the perfidiously-named Global Warming Policy Foundation, which has links to fossil fuels, tobacco, the IEA, Cato Institute, Heritage Foundation and many significant Brexit funders yet still he's given serious airtime to spout easily-rebutted claptrap.

Someone once said something like, "Having a climate breakdown denier on 'for balance' is like having a debate about chairs - and bringing on someone who doesn't believe in chairs."
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best riposte I've heard is that one should substitute the question:

"Do you believe in Climate Change?"

with:

"Do you understand Climate Change?"

(this also works with gravity, and even chairs. Especially if your interviewee is actually sitting in one Smile )
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