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Tarrel



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:48 pm    Post subject: Thanks...and a question. Reply with quote

OK, better get things moving, having lobbied for this new section.

1. Thanks, Admins, for setting it up.

2. As a Permaculture "newbie", can anyone recommend some instructional reading? I'm really looking for practical advice. If it was related to woodlands, it would be even better!

Cheers.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is good, it is the standard tome (obviously you don't have to buy from DODGY TAX AVOIDERS)

http://www.DODGY TAX AVOIDERS.co.uk/Grow-More-Vegetables-Eighth-Edition-ebook/dp/B0050DKZZW

Regarding woodlands, this is a good starting point

http://www.DODGY TAX AVOIDERS.co.uk/Woodland-Way-The-Permaculture-Sustainable/dp/1856231275/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1389808042&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=the+woodland+way

and for more info than is good for a person, and a jolly pleasurable read

http://www.DODGY TAX AVOIDERS.co.uk/Woodlands-Oliver-Rackham/dp/0007481047/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1389808079&sr=1-1&keywords=woodlands+oliver+rackham
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And a further thought, as you have a wood

http://www.permaculture.co.uk/readers-solutions/small-scale-hugelkultur-raised-beds
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers EYV. I already have "The Woodland Way". Excellent and recommended. I actually went to visit one of the woodlands that Ben Law describes as a case study. Very interesting. Got my copy down at the Sustainability Centre in Hampshire.

I'll have a look at the Rackham one.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone know ought about this "FREE PERMACULTURE DESIGN COURSE
Complete Online Self-Paced Program" http://www.permaculturedesigntraining.com/?cctidx=fb-onlinepdc-la-4d
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

biffvernon wrote:
Anyone know ought about this "FREE PERMACULTURE DESIGN COURSE
Complete Online Self-Paced Program" http://www.permaculturedesigntraining.com/?cctidx=fb-onlinepdc-la-4d


DO NOT GO NEAR.

These people have a very bad reputation.

http://highdesertpermaculture.org/blog/2012/12/14/the-spammers-at-permaculture-design-training-regenerative-leadership-institute-threaten-me-with-lawsuit/

A lot of people are complaining about poor quality courses, very bad people skills, spamming and threats of legal action when anybody complains.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just as I suspected. Thanks. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For my money, Patrick Whitefield's 'Earth Care Manual' is the most comprehensive tome for UK based permaculture, with Martin Crawford's new(ish) book on forest gardening giving a whole load of good plant information. There are loads of books out there, but those two cover a great deal imo.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a book about Forest Gardens and one bed of about 2x2 m in the front garden of Chateau Renewable was planted-up along those lines.

In that small space, there thrive:
1 Apple tree (prizewinning Bramleys)
3 Redcurrant bushes (prizewinning whine)
1 Blackcurrant bush
1 Gooseberry bush (which is a little crowded and might emigrate)
3 garlic bulbs (we only use the leaves)
1 Lemonbalm
1 Lavender
1 Bramble
A load of Alpine Strawbs.

However, the little bed was previously occupied by a privet hedge, so had no weeds on whatsoever by the time I'd pulled that up (because privet kills most other stuff).

Attempts to replicate this bounty on a larger scale (on the Plot) would doubtless result in Death By Bindweed. On consulting the relevant part of my Forest Garden book, I was advised to resort to Agent Orange or similar. So, no forest gardens on the Plot, at least not this year.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RenewableCandy wrote:
I have a book about Forest Gardens and one bed of about 2x2 m in the front garden of Chateau Renewable was planted-up along those lines.

In that small space, there thrive:
1 Apple tree (prizewinning Bramleys)
3 Redcurrant bushes (prizewinning whine)
1 Blackcurrant bush
1 Gooseberry bush (which is a little crowded and might emigrate)
3 garlic bulbs (we only use the leaves)
1 Lemonbalm
1 Lavender
1 Bramble
A load of Alpine Strawbs.


However, the little bed was previously occupied by a privet hedge, so had no weeds on whatsoever by the time I'd pulled that up (because privet kills most other stuff).

Attempts to replicate this bounty on a larger scale (on the Plot) would doubtless result in Death By Bindweed. On consulting the relevant part of my Forest Garden book, I was advised to resort to Agent Orange or similar. So, no forest gardens on the Plot, at least not this year.


Wow! That's a lot in a small space. Any chance of a piccy, or a planting diagram?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tarrel wrote:
RenewableCandy wrote:
I have a book about Forest Gardens and one bed of about 2x2 m in the front garden of Chateau Renewable was planted-up along those lines.

In that small space, there thrive:
1 Apple tree (prizewinning Bramleys)
3 Redcurrant bushes (prizewinning whine)
1 Blackcurrant bush
1 Gooseberry bush (which is a little crowded and might emigrate)
3 garlic bulbs (we only use the leaves)
1 Lemonbalm
1 Lavender
1 Bramble
A load of Alpine Strawbs.


However, the little bed was previously occupied by a privet hedge, so had no weeds on whatsoever by the time I'd pulled that up (because privet kills most other stuff).

Attempts to replicate this bounty on a larger scale (on the Plot) would doubtless result in Death By Bindweed. On consulting the relevant part of my Forest Garden book, I was advised to resort to Agent Orange or similar. So, no forest gardens on the Plot, at least not this year.


Wow! That's a lot in a small space. Any chance of a piccy, or a planting diagram?


Hi Tarrel.
You might find these lectures handy.
Bill Mollison Permaculture Lecture Series, On-Line.
http://www.networkearth.org/perma/culture.html


Bit of an eclectic mix and match here.
http://www.pinterest.com/geetarista/permaculture-biodynamics-food-forest/

I would highly recommend, Ken Ferns's, book, 'plants for a future'.

Any of, Sepp Holzers, work.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peaceful_life wrote:
Hi Tarrel.
You might find these lectures handy.
Bill Mollison Permaculture Lecture Series, On-Line.
http://www.networkearth.org/perma/culture.html


Fascinating; packed with info. The title music is a bit of a fail though. Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

emordnilap wrote:
peaceful_life wrote:
Hi Tarrel.
You might find these lectures handy.
Bill Mollison Permaculture Lecture Series, On-Line.
http://www.networkearth.org/perma/culture.html


Fascinating; packed with info. The title music is a bit of a fail though. Laughing Laughing


Yeah, I didn't think much of the decor either ;-0)

ps....thanks for the section admins!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peaceful_life wrote:

http://www.networkearth.org/perma/culture.html



Ha! "Evil turns out to be rigorously applied stupidity." (from the lecture on home gardening). If only that was the whole truth. Unfortunately there is plenty of evil intent in this world (see: Rupert Murdoch, the Conservative Party, etc...). Although I have to agree that a large amount of what appears to be evil is indeed rigorously applied stupidity.

Thanks for posting.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forgive my curiosity guys, but for some reason I had an underlying impression that the majority on this forum were very au fait with the necessary potential, are people aware of the broad-scale work being done?
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