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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh! no! I'm not going to be arrested am I? Can I get asylum at the Cat Protection League?

Cat is being made illegal!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know they've (unfortunately) gone bust but I didn't think they were illegal.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know what all the fuss is about with cats and TB. TB's detectable and curable. Toxoplasma Gondii is neither, and practically every cat carries it, along with some astonishing percentage of the otherwise-healthy Great British Public. Once any one of them ceases to be "otherwise-healthy", toxo pounces and, basically, eats the brain.

Actually, d'you think that explains Owen Paterson?..
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"They" can do something about TB! Kill some bloody badgers!

It's the same thing with foxes. They were lovely little things amongst the urbanites until they started climbing into kiddies' bedrooms and killing them. Now, they should be eradicated from cities.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you see this article in yesterday's Grauniad article about cats by David Nutt on cats? Utterly brilliant.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jul/03/ban-qat-theresa-may-ban-cats
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hang on I've just realised...the David Nutt?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RenewableCandy wrote:
I don't know what all the fuss is about with cats and TB. TB's detectable and curable. Toxoplasma Gondii is neither, and practically every cat carries it, along with some astonishing percentage of the otherwise-healthy Great British Public. Once any one of them ceases to be "otherwise-healthy", toxo pounces and, basically, eats the brain.

Actually, d'you think that explains Owen Paterson?..


It explains nearly all cat lovers Smile

Parasites controlling your brain and making you take unhealthy risks....
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I wonder if that's what the trend for Zombie films has been trying to tell us all along?..
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JavaScriptDonkey wrote:
RenewableCandy wrote:
I don't know what all the fuss is about with cats and TB. TB's detectable and curable. Toxoplasma Gondii is neither, and practically every cat carries it, along with some astonishing percentage of the otherwise-healthy Great British Public. Once any one of them ceases to be "otherwise-healthy", toxo pounces and, basically, eats the brain.

Actually, d'you think that explains Owen Paterson?..


It explains nearly all cat lovers Smile

Parasites controlling your brain and making you take unhealthy risks....


Very Happy Classic.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now fuming having read the latest missive from DEFRA on bTB in cattle, "Strategy for Achieving "Officially Bovine tuberculosis Free" Status for England: an "edge area" strategy". It's basically a sop for animal rights people to show that they are making farmers do something. It doesn't really do anything at all.

The only thing about badgers is that the ministry will now pay 50% of my costs for vaccinating bloody badgers!! The vaccination is known to be not fully effective!! And why should I have to pay to vaccinate the local wildlife. Krebs claims that if you disturb a badger population it will go wondering off. So I disturb the local badgers by trapping and vaccinating them and they wonder off to be replaced by unvaccinated badger!! The world and the Ministry have gone mad.

Oh! I nearly forgot, the ministry are going to "work to gather and disseminate information on their (badger) density and prevalence of TB infection." Nice to see that they are going to do some work!! But they'll find that there aren't many badgers around this area so where the hell did the TB come from. I don't buy in cattle, and they're going to tell me how to do that without bringing in TB, and my cattle have no contact with other cattle so there must be another vector.

As local vets are seeing TB in domestic cats and it's well known that deer carry the disease shouldn't these animals be investigated as well. At least I can shoot any deer that I see and we'll just say that we don't see many cats because the dogs chase them away! What about foxes? We have plenty of those (probably another reason we don't see many cats).

If they had a reliable method of saying whether anything has TB or not we might be able to start getting somewhere. Labour, with their toadying up to animal rights people, are to blame for letting the disease spread so far but this government don't seem to be much better.

Time to pass these choice bits of information on to Richard Benyon!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You seem to be expecting to be given facts. The government are interested in money, not facts. If you give them some money, they will show some interest (or perhaps charge you interest).
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since we have killed everything that naturally kills badgers it is mostly down to use to cull their population. Same deal with deer.

I really don't see the problem.

Perhaps the animal rightists should sell their comfortable North London homes, buy a large chunk of Cornwall and then we can ship all the foxes and badgers there?

How have Bovine TB rates in Ireland been impacted by their culls?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JavaScriptDonkey wrote:

How have Bovine TB rates in Ireland been impacted by their culls?

Statically, not in a significant way.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

biffvernon wrote:
JavaScriptDonkey wrote:

How have Bovine TB rates in Ireland been impacted by their culls?

Statically, not in a significant way.


So you have the data?

I wonder because we could compare the Republic to the north where I assume there is still no culling.
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