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biffvernon



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another 350 reasons not to build HS2:
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/ios-investigation-hs2--the-hidden-cost-to-britains-wildlife-8478609.html

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More than 350 wildlife sites, including nature reserves, ancient woodlands and wetlands which are home to some of Britain's rarest species, are threatened by the high-speed rail link

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha! I love the National Audit Office.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22543860
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Time to 'rationalise' them, then.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice to see the NEF rubbishing HS2 http://www.neweconomics.org/publications/entry/high-speed-2-the-best-we-can-do
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Costs. Here we go...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He said building HS2 would "create and support" at least 100,000 jobs and "underpin" a further 400,000.


What's that funny smell...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

emordnilap wrote:
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He said building HS2 would "create and support" at least 100,000 jobs and "underpin" a further 400,000.


What's that funny smell...

There are a few people here who could do with a job. I wonder how many people in the areas covered by HS2 need one this much.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23028078
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a shame we can't put the whole thing in a tunnel.

Then we'd get the benefits of increased rail links mostly immune to weather disruption without having to tear another gash in the countryside.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'd make for a really boring journey, though. Oh no I've done it again...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JavaScriptDonkey wrote:
It's a shame we can't put the whole thing in a tunnel.

It would cost even more, making it even more of a waste of money that could be spread around to benefit more of the UK.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CrikeyMoses! They're advertising for jobs on HS2 already! A job-alert service to which I subscribe has just sent me a bunch of them.

I notice that, in keeping with HMG's enlightened policy towards The Regions, all the jobs are based in London Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah but they're planning a railway so people from The Regions can commute to London.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

biffvernon wrote:
Yeah but they're planning a railway so people from The Regions can commute to London.

But they've got to build the railway so the people from The Regions can commute to London to build the railway. So it's more jobs for London people. And it won't open until most of the people who could work on it have retired, or died!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which is why it will never be built.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lke I said:

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The HS2 high-speed rail project could cost more than 80bn - almost double the current estimated cost of 42.6bn, a free-market think tank has said.

The Institute for Economic Affairs (IEA) expects lobbying by local councils for extra infrastructure and design changes will inflate the cost.


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