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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:51 pm    Post subject: Chill! Reply with quote

Snow to fall in NE, travelling across the rest of the country soon. It's yer blocking anticyclone innit.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/hi/news/newsid_9221000/9221616.stm

Very frosty nights: get the rest of those plants indoors Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spot price for natural gas, back over 50p a unit.

If we get a winter like the last one, we will run oit of long term storage, unless we drastically increase LNG imports.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like fun, by Saturday night most of the country should be covered and it looks like it'll stick around:
http://www.wetter3.de/animation.html
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

clv101, thanks for that "Weather in several European countries" link. Very useful.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where's the Gulf Stream at the moment? I gather that its behaviour has been rather unusual over the past couple of winters, hence the cold weather.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ludwig wrote:
Where's the Gulf Stream at the moment? I gather that its behaviour has been rather unusual over the past couple of winters, hence the cold weather.


It will certainly be rather curious if we have another major freeze and 2010 also turns out to be globally the warmest year.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently when we get cold air from the Arctic, it gets replaced with warm air from the Pacific. The Arctic gets warmer while we get colder. This happened quite a lot last winter. There are not so many thermometers in the arctic where the warming is happening, but lots in Europe where the cold weather is. Result: the planet is warming more than we have measured.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Biff, that's a load of nonsense.... Sad

We are getting cold weather simply due to the synoptics of the current meterological setup, with blocked Atlantic, with the weather coming from Scandinavia and Russia. The Arctic is not warm - you need to stop spreading untruths....

see this link, http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rhavn901.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ludwig wrote:
Where's the Gulf Stream at the moment? I gather that its behaviour has been rather unusual over the past couple of winters, hence the cold weather.
Err...Gulf Stream or Jet Stream? I think the Gulf Stream packing-up scare has, at least for the mo, been laid to rest. The Jet Stream has been behaving oddly these last couple of years, I haven't seen anyone claim CC as a cause, but then I haven't searched too hard.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the Jet Stream is blowing a north wester over the Bay of Biscay at the moment which is keeping the Atlantic air away from us and giving the Artic air stream.

http://www.wunderground.com/global/PL.html
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

snow hope wrote:
Biff, that's a load of nonsense.... Sad


I would expect nothing less from the denialist faction of this forum. My post was, of course, a gross oversimplification but sums up what a paper, a link to which I can't be bothered to find at the moment (go search ClimateProgress or RealClimate) said recently.

Take home message: The planet is warming and when mid latitudes show a cooling this can be hiding a greater overall warming.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

biffvernon wrote:
snow hope wrote:
Biff, that's a load of nonsense.... Sad


I would expect nothing less from the denialist faction of this forum.


Snow hope isn't part of the denialist faction of this forum.

The people who compile global weather statistics take into account the relative "lack of thermometers" in certain places.

I wasn't necessarily referring to gulf stream shutting down. If we have a run of cold winters even as the planet gets warmer then there may be some other reason for it. The gulf stream shutting down was just one example of how climate change is likely to cause different effects in different places. Not everywhere will get warmer. Some will get drier or wetter or colder.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

UndercoverElephant wrote:
The people who compile global weather statistics take into account the relative "lack of thermometers" in certain places.

The media certainly do not take this into account in their reporting, as was seen last winter.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UndercoverElephant wrote:

Snow hope isn't part of the denialist faction of this forum.


Irony check, please. Where would we be without humour and a bit of hyperbole? You should know by now never to take anything I say seriously, except when I'm being serious.

But the Arctic is warming and data on how much is limited.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arctic sea ice extent is once again at a record low for the time of year.

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/index.html

That should produce another down-tick on the arctic sea ice volume, when they next estimate it.

http://psc.apl.washington.edu/ArcticSeaiceVolume/images/BPIOMASIceVolumeAnomalyCurrent.png
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