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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:00 am    Post subject: totalitarian technology Reply with quote

A primer

It’s typical that the appropriators of the name of a river should be a leading player. It’s not enough that the work is done, humans have to be tortured into working faster and cheaper:

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…is patenting an electronic wristband that would be used to track hand movements—making sure, for instance, that a warehouse worker stays busy moving boxes.


I got a bad name at one place where I worked when I refused to give a fingerprint for their clock-in system.*

In a small firm, such technology is a waste of money. The work, done to standard and in time, is enough.

*The system was never used, it was celtic tiger optimism.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing new.

When I worked in finance in the UK about 20 years ago I heard of another company, not the one I worked for, that enabled a 1 minute screensaver on the computers of the age. If you dawdled for one minute then the screensaver went on - if it did more than a certain number of times a day you were fired.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing new in the motivation for such intrusiveness, certainly not. But the encouragement of it by those toiling under its yoke is worrying.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thankfully nobody is actually forced to work for them.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Outside the biggest cities, people have limited work options in the UK.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fuzzy wrote:
Outside the biggest cities, people have limited work options in the UK.
What ? The countryside has no plumbers or electricians, carpenters or roofers? Nor any doctors and nurses UPS drivers , auto mechanics or school teachers?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vtsnowedin wrote:
fuzzy wrote:
Outside the biggest cities, people have limited work options in the UK.
What ? The countryside has no plumbers or electricians, carpenters or roofers? Nor any doctors and nurses UPS drivers , auto mechanics or school teachers?


I live in the sticks. Hospitals closed, schools closed, banks closed, post offices closed, police stations closed, pubs closed, very limited public transport. Lots of people working a couple of low paid jobs if they can find them. Property expensive because retirees with gold plated pensions move here to 'paradise'. It's either tourist income for 6 months to last 12 or servicing the needs of the retirees. Luckily for me I just about get by, and don't need to put up with living in an urban conurbation, but all my kids have had to move for employment, two in Bristol, one in Sweden. They all earn considerably more than I do.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eatyourveg wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:
fuzzy wrote:
Outside the biggest cities, people have limited work options in the UK.
What ? The countryside has no plumbers or electricians, carpenters or roofers? Nor any doctors and nurses UPS drivers , auto mechanics or school teachers?


I live in the sticks. Hospitals closed, schools closed, banks closed, post offices closed, police stations closed, pubs closed, very limited public transport. Lots of people working a couple of low paid jobs if they can find them. Property expensive because retirees with gold plated pensions move here to 'paradise'. It's either tourist income for 6 months to last 12 or servicing the needs of the retirees. Luckily for me I just about get by, and don't need to put up with living in an urban conurbation, but all my kids have had to move for employment, two in Bristol, one in Sweden. They all earn considerably more than I do.


Exactly
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the schools here are consolidating due to a decline in student population and some small hospitals are closing but not the one nearest me or the monster hub hospital that it feeds. Other then that all those other services are holding pretty steady. I did commute for years down past that hub hospital to my job about 40 miles each way but you have to expect that in a rural setting.
I have had two children move away following their career path as they both work for the Federal government in urban centers.
So I hear you and if I was in your situation and unemployed I'd be looking for a job catering to or servicing the needs of those well heeled retirees. After all they don't do any of their own plumbing or mechanic work.
What is the local unemployment rate. My county is at 2.9% with the whole USA at 4.1
3.0% is considered full employment and indeed some employers here can not find qualified people to meet their needs.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny but I can't seem to find stats in which the word 'unemployment' is used. Must be a non-word these days. However for ages 16-64 both sexes at 1 Sept. 2018 75.4% plus 14.2% self employed are 'economically' active. Average wage is £499pw (Jesus I bloody wish!), nationally it's £530.
My own ill gotten gains come from operating a campsite April-September. I used to have a proper job in the transport industry, but I'd rather starve than do that again.
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