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Is it really hard to fathom why many people despise the US?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Little John wrote:
He was democratically elected. .

With a 32 percent turnout. Yah right!! At least he didn't claim a 99 percent vote. That makes it all good.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't recognise Trump as president - he didn't get the majority of votes. We should invade the US and democratise them.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't recognise Trump as president - he didn't get the majority of votes. We should invade the US and democratise them.

Meet you at Yorktown.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vtsnowedin wrote:
emordnilap wrote:
I don't recognise Trump as president - he didn't get the majority of votes. We should invade the US and democratise them.

Meet you at Yorktown.


Do we get to sack Washington again beforehand?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenneal - lagger wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:
emordnilap wrote:
I don't recognise Trump as president - he didn't get the majority of votes. We should invade the US and democratise them.

Meet you at Yorktown.


Do we get to sack Washington again beforehand?

You can try.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vtsnowedin wrote:
kenneal - lagger wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:
emordnilap wrote:
I don't recognise Trump as president - he didn't get the majority of votes. We should invade the US and democratise them.

Meet you at Yorktown.


Do we get to sack Washington again beforehand?

You can try.


Yes, and President Bonespurs will defend it with your life VT Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vtsnowedin wrote:
kenneal - lagger wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:
emordnilap wrote:
I don't recognise Trump as president - he didn't get the majority of votes. We should invade the US and democratise them.

Meet you at Yorktown.


Do we get to sack Washington again beforehand?

You can try.
Joking and banter aside, be careful with this attitude, 17 years ago 19 men armed with small knives bought the US to a standstill and changed the world forever.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Point taken.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vtsnowedin wrote:
Little John wrote:
He was democratically elected. .

With a 32 percent turnout. Yah right!! At least he didn't claim a 99 percent vote. That makes it all good.


It’s never a good idea to boycott elections. Maduro got over 67% of votes cast and the election had 150 foreign observers. Even a US president has praised Venezuela’s electoral system as possibly one of the world’s best.

The boycott backfired and the CIA should fúck off.
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there can be no elections under US sanctions. When Nicaraguans voted in 1990, they didn't do so freely. The Bush Sr administration had declared that it would lift the embargo if the opposition candidate won against the Sandinista incumbent, Daniel Ortega.

With the same people in charge of US policy today, it's clear that the point of sanctions is to twist the arm of Venezuelans until they vote the way the US wants. The impact of sanctions has already been devastating, and their tightening into a brutal oil blockade means the situation will only get worse.

If the US and its Venezuelan allies really care about electoral conditions, then they should recognise that there can be no free and fair elections with the threat of continued sanctions or foreign intervention hanging over the heads of voters.


Source

One of the more intelligent articles on US tyranny.
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