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vtsnowedin
Joined: 07 Jan 2011 Posts: 5011 Location: New England ,Chelsea Vermont
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Considering that the domestic sheep originated in the middle east I'd think they would be more heat tolerant. But given that, I would not want to be a domestic sheep that had not been closely clipped before this week. |
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emordnilap

Joined: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 14390 Location: Houǝsʇlʎ' ᴉʇ,s ɹǝɐllʎ uoʇ ʍoɹʇɥ ʇɥǝ ǝɟɟoɹʇ' pou,ʇ ǝʌǝu qoʇɥǝɹ˙
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Sheep really should lose their coats in summer. _________________ "Buddhists say we come back as animals and they refer to them as lesser beings. Well, animals aren’t lesser beings, they’re just like us. So I say fụck the Buddhists" - Bjork |
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adam2 Site Admin

Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 6943 Location: North Somerset
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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I know not of what breed the sheep were, they had been shorn.
No significant numbers of sheep are kept, just a handful for eating by the family.
The cows seem to have got the idea of grazing by electric lights at night, and sleeping under the trees during the day.
Many of the chickens have perished, presumably of the heat. They had plenty of shade, but I fear that temperatures even in the shade were too high.
Chickens are of course kept in the tropics, but I suspect that they gradually adapt. A sudden and extreme heatwave was too much for birds used to cooler conditions. _________________ "Installers and owners of emergency diesels must assume that they will have to run for a week or more" |
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woodburner
Joined: 06 Apr 2009 Posts: 3796
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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I doubt the original sheep had such thick coats, unless they were up mountains. I suspect they had thinner coats than uk sheep today.
Surprising what there is to find when you’re looking for original sheep: What do you get from sheep?
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But if it can be proven that the condition is caused by a bacterial toxin then a vaccine could be created to inoculate people against ever getting MS, in the same that people are given shots against tetanus. |
Well what you get is an excuse to make another pointless vaccine, except of course the point is to make money. Vitamin C would fix it, and a lot cheaper. |
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kenneal - lagger Site Admin
Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 10767 Location: Newbury, Berkshire
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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The other thing that pigs enjoy in hot, sunny weather is a muddy puddle. It's their equivalent of air conditioning and sun tan lotion wrapped in one! They will wallow in it most of the day, when they're not rooting. _________________ As Steve Keen puts it: “Capital without energy is a statue; labour without energy is a corpse.” Economics ignores this which is why economics is broken. |
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boisdevie
Joined: 26 Dec 2012 Posts: 258 Location: N Lancashire
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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My tips are: wear shorts all day with sandals (but no socks of course). And leave the jogging for early morning or late evening.
There, problem fixed. |
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vtsnowedin
Joined: 07 Jan 2011 Posts: 5011 Location: New England ,Chelsea Vermont
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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boisdevie wrote: | My tips are: wear shorts all day with sandals (but no socks of course). And leave the jogging for early morning or late evening.
There, problem fixed. |
If allowed of course. Unfortunately the required uniform at work requires full length trousers , steel toed heavy work boots, reflective vest over short sleeved shirt and plastic hard hat. It actually is good protection against sunburn and helps keep ticks from getting on you. But for a week such as this it is hard if you actually have to be on your feet in the road. The traffic passing by just fan you with super hot air. Fortunately the contractors have given up fighting the Holiday traffic so I had this afternoon and tomorrow off and I have retreated to my hill top where it is 85 degrees with a nice breeze. |
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fuzzy
Joined: 29 Nov 2013 Posts: 825 Location: The Marches, UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:43 am Post subject: |
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Is it always a 3.5 hr commute? I couldn't face that either. |
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vtsnowedin
Joined: 07 Jan 2011 Posts: 5011 Location: New England ,Chelsea Vermont
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:51 am Post subject: |
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fuzzy wrote: | Is it always a 3.5 hr commute? I couldn't face that either. |
No that is on the high end and rare, but I will be putting in several more days on this site when major operations are underway.
Living in Vermont and working for the New Hampshire DOT gives me forty minutes each way just getting to the right State but a lot of the work is right along the border in bridges crossing the Connecticut river and I-89 which is the Vermont to Boston pipeline.
But at least my commute is a morning drive down mostly empty roads with just the occasional deer. I have relatives that live and work in the New York urban area that have a ten mile commute that can take two and a half hours most days. |
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vtsnowedin
Joined: 07 Jan 2011 Posts: 5011 Location: New England ,Chelsea Vermont
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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I've had a front move through with thundershowers that dropped about an inch of rain. That brought the temp down to 75F which is quite a relief. |
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boisdevie
Joined: 26 Dec 2012 Posts: 258 Location: N Lancashire
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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"I have relatives that live and work in the New York urban area that have a ten mile commute that can take two and a half hours most days." - don't bicycles exist in America? |
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vtsnowedin
Joined: 07 Jan 2011 Posts: 5011 Location: New England ,Chelsea Vermont
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:43 am Post subject: |
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boisdevie wrote: | "I have relatives that live and work in the New York urban area that have a ten mile commute that can take two and a half hours most days." - don't bicycles exist in America? | Oh they exist but if you try to commute on one you will find there is no safe place to park it so it wont be there when your shift is over. Also social norms prevent anyone from showing up at work smelling of exercise.  |
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adam2 Site Admin

Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 6943 Location: North Somerset
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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My friends dairy cattle are now prospering, despite the heat, they have become used to grazing at night and during he cooler part of the day.
Milk yields have increased, as has the milk price.
The grass is growing excellently with a bit of irrigation. It is most unusual to water pasture, but as they have the water, why not ? _________________ "Installers and owners of emergency diesels must assume that they will have to run for a week or more" |
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vtsnowedin
Joined: 07 Jan 2011 Posts: 5011 Location: New England ,Chelsea Vermont
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:15 am Post subject: |
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adam2 wrote: |
Milk yields have increased, as has the milk price.
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I am a bit surprised at that. Even with excellent feed and copious amounts water available dairy cows will tend to take it easy during the heat of the summer. Excellent herd management if they have just maintained spring production levels, much more if they have achieved an increase.  |
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adam2 Site Admin

Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 6943 Location: North Somerset
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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The cows seem much happier, they look contented and are yielding well.
Food intake is almost entirely grass plus a very little cattle cake.
The land is not the best pasture, but the stocking rate is very low.
The lower fields are liable to flooding at times and even in this heatwave the grass is growing excellently.
The higher fields are much drier and without watering would be worthless in a drought. _________________ "Installers and owners of emergency diesels must assume that they will have to run for a week or more" |
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