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Little John
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 Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:47 am Post subject: Why American collapse is being underestimated |
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https://eand.co/why-were-underestimating-american-collapse-be04d9e55235
| Quote: | | "American collapse is a catastrophe of human possibility without modern parallel. ... The uniqueness of these social pathologies tell us that American collapse is not like a reversion to any mean, or the downswing of a trend. It is something outside the norm. ... We need a whole new language — and a new way of seeing — to even begin to make sense of it." |
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LJ, help this thicko by linking that video to your quote, please. Maybe it's just too deep for me. 
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Little John
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| emordnilap wrote: | | LJ, help this thicko by linking that video to your quote, please. Maybe it's just too deep for me. |
bollocks...
wrong link..hahaha
Please check again. |
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kenneal - lagger
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Having read the article it would seem that the Good Samaritan is in hiding in the USA if he's there at all. The article is a pretty damning indictment of a nation which professes so strongly to be Christian. And it is the self proclaimed Christian Right Republicans who seem to be leading the charge away from what they see as "socialist" public aid for the sick and downtrodden. I nearly said retreat but that doesn't describe the trajectory well enough.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: Why American collapse is being underestimated |
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| Little John wrote: | https://eand.co/why-were-underestimating-american-collapse-be04d9e55235
| Quote: | | "American collapse is a catastrophe of human possibility without modern parallel. ... The uniqueness of these social pathologies tell us that American collapse is not like a reversion to any mean, or the downswing of a trend. It is something outside the norm. ... We need a whole new language — and a new way of seeing — to even begin to make sense of it." |
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Reading this and then immediately reading/watching Trump's Davos speech is a good illustration how screwed we are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rDhvWgiq9o
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| kenneal - lagger wrote: | | ...a pretty damning indictment of a nation which professes so strongly to be Christian. And it is the self proclaimed Christian Right Republicans who seem to be leading the charge away from what they see as "socialist" public aid for the sick and downtrodden... |
It's neatly explained in Democracy in Chains.
Basically, the monied right have to appear to be Christian to capture that segment of the vote. It's mostly a sham.
It was realised very early in the capitalist fight against democracy that having the 'godfearing' vote - who tend to be the poor - was vital for sheer numbers.
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kenneal - lagger
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Doesn't say much for the integrity of many US politicians but then I didn't think that many of them had much integrity any way given the amount of money they take in bribes. Sorry, campaign contributions!!
I the UK it's slightly different in that it's the political parties which get bribed rather than the individual politicians.
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| kenneal - lagger wrote: | | Having read the article it would seem that the Good Samaritan is in hiding in the USA if he's there at all. The article is a pretty damning indictment of a nation which professes so strongly to be Christian. And it is the self proclaimed Christian Right Republicans who seem to be leading the charge away from what they see as "socialist" public aid for the sick and downtrodden. I nearly said retreat but that doesn't describe the trajectory well enough. |
Henry VIII professed to be strongly Christian yet he was was probably the biggest tyrant in English history. The USA may be mild by comparison. |
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