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Little John



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnhemming2 wrote:
clv101 wrote:
The carbon arithmetic presented so clearly by Kevin Anderson makes it clear the 2 degree target is impossible without imminent, dramatic, rapid action - action which absolutely isn't forthcoming.

I have not looked at the carbon arithmetic, but I think you are probably right in the round if not the specific. The relatively mild actions so far have resulted in Trumpery.
You think that's the reason for Trump?

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johnhemming2



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Little John wrote:
johnhemming2 wrote:
clv101 wrote:
The carbon arithmetic presented so clearly by Kevin Anderson makes it clear the 2 degree target is impossible without imminent, dramatic, rapid action - action which absolutely isn't forthcoming.

I have not looked at the carbon arithmetic, but I think you are probably right in the round if not the specific. The relatively mild actions so far have resulted in Trumpery.
You think that's the reason for Trump?

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No I don't think that's the reason for Trump. It has, however, resulted in him saying
the idiot - even more of an idiot than varoufakis wrote:

The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.


https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/265895292191248385?lang=en-gb

I think that is adequately described as Trumpery. (ie drivel)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

clv101 wrote:
the 2 degree target is impossible without imminent, dramatic, rapid action - action which absolutely isn't forthcoming.


Nutshell, big time.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sir Brian Hoskins emailed this link this morning although it's something that we have already commented on here.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever changes are happening are unlikely to be linear.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnhemming2 wrote:
Whatever changes are happening are unlikely to be linear.


I think that is why Hansen et al are predicting up top seven metres of sea level rise by the end of the century.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This article has been gaining some attention:

http://science.sciencemag.org/content/355/6331/1269.full
http://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/3/23/15028480/roadmap-paris-climate-goals
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