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Are we on the brink of an electric car revolution?
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PS_RalphW



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But that is true of all energy sources, including oil. The EROEI of wind is at least as good as new oil field developments now. The energy consumed building the car is far higher than the energy used to build the wind turbine to power it. It is the car that is least sustainAble. Not the transport.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are so many figures about, have you reliable references for this?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today's news Tesla passes Ford in market capitalization based on quarterly sales of just 25,000 cars vs. Fords sales of 236,250. Rolling Eyes
http://247wallst.com/autos/2017/04/03/tesla-passes-ford-becomes-second-most-valuable-car-company-in-america/
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another bit of propaganda from the representatives of the 'hard-pressed motorist' (what a turn-off that phrase is). Here's a sample of their neutral language:

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But hard working drivers and small businesses are now being bullied by draconian policies from out of touch politicians, unqualified to solve the emissions issue


...although I almost agree with the final clause! 'Not allowed to tackle' or 'not forced to confront' would be more truthful than 'unqualified to solve'.

Take time to fill in their 'survey' (are the respondents representative of the general population? will the results be biased in any way? are any questions loaded? Laughing ) here.

If you're outside the UK, put in the postcode YO26 4XJ (York Railway Museum) or SW8 4AA (Battersea Dogs' Home) or G76 0QQ (Whitelee Windfarm)
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