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mobbsey
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 Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:59 am Post subject: The horror!, the horror! |
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30,000 spent, 1200 of power in December...
the complete madness of Christmas consumerism needs to be addressed!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20669944 |
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extractorfan
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:36 am Post subject: |
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what a total pillock 
His money I suppose, who am I to judge  |
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emordnilap
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:38 am Post subject: |
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And it always comes back to a single solution, which shouldn't need repeating on this forum.
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stumuzz
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Miserable old gits. |
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extractorfan
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| stumuzz wrote: | | Miserable old gits. |
If I had a spare 30K I would be less miserable. |
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emordnilap
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| stumuzz wrote: | | Miserable old gits. |
How so? I'm not suggesting he can't do what he wants.
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Little John
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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I've just taken a look at that BBC video. Quite apart from the extravagance, which I care less about, the fact is it's bloody grotesque.
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JohnB
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:12 am Post subject: |
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Little John
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:21 am Post subject: |
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What really took the biscuit for me was when he said he was doing it to raise money for all of the sick kids down at the local hospital. It immediately struck me that he could have just given the bleeding 30k straight to the hospital! |
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JohnB
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| stevecook172001 wrote: | | What really took the biscuit for me was when he said he was doing it to raise money for all of the sick kids down at the local hospital. It immediately struck me that he could have just given the bleeding 30k straight to the hospital! |
I thought that too. I wonder how many of them are sick due to all the shit that's put into the environment while making all that crap, and generating the electricity to power it, and all the other examples of such stupidity in the world.
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kenneal - lagger
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:32 am Post subject: |
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It's probably advertising for his company and claimed against tax.
Saw this further down the page. Far more interesting.
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stumuzz
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They are doing what our ancestors have done for thousands of years.
Lighting a bright light and socialising.
Yesteryear it was done with a bonfire and worshipping to gods and spirits.
We have always done this in winter, to bring back the sun and make the crops grow again. Have a wiki at the list of winter festivals, they run from November through to February. It is such a dark and depressing time of year people have always tried to bring heat and light back into their lives.
Take a look at the film again. You will see people doing what YOUR ancestors have always done |
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Little John
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| stumuzz wrote: | They are doing what our ancestors have done for thousands of years.
Lighting a bright light and socialising.
Yesteryear it was done with a bonfire and worshipping to gods and spirits.
We have always done this in winter, to bring back the sun and make the crops grow again. Have a wiki at the list of winter festivals, they run from November through to February. It is such a dark and depressing time of year people have always tried to bring heat and light back into their lives.
Take a look at the film again. You will see people doing what YOUR ancestors have always done |
My ancesters also lived in caves, chucked their shit into the street and believed that a sky fairy made everything. Funnily enough, we don't always need to do everything our ancesters did. |
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Tarrel
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1200 is roughly 8,500 kWh! That would keep around 40 houses well lit with low-energy lighting for a year. I take the point about the winter festivals, but, as usual, it's the sheer scale of the thing, brought about by the simple ability to throw a switch.
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